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General Meeting at TSD Auditorium
January 24, 2007

Called to order at 7:10 by Carole Allen after giving attendees time to view plans and drawings. Carole announced that Camden Management Properties will do a presentation on the development of the Tank Farm property.

In order to help the developers know who was at the meeting, people were asked to introduce themselves and tell where they live.

Camden Properties is developing the glove factory property as well as the Tank Farm property.
Carole introduced developer John Gumpert, the Managing Partner, from Camden Management Properties. Christian Rushing and Stroud Watson, architects and land planners from Kennedy, Coulter, Rushing & Watson, were also introduced.
Mr. Gumpert explained there will be a mix of 2, 3 and 4 story housing with parking in garages or behind the house keeping it hidden from the street. This is not a high density development like City View. They are predicting around 180 units. Some of the product illustrated in the drawing is an urban type. The developer hopes to use the same types of architectural styles found in IHP on his building.

The developers want to shift the road onto their property to create a pedestrian walkway. They are committed to making this a walking community. The commercial aspect would be to help bring businesses to the area such as an ice cream shop, small convenience store or a wine shop. Camden Properties is developing City View as well as the Sterchi building downtown.

Mr. Gumpert said they are in the environmental remediation phase of the development. They have completed a thorough investigation/clean up of the property and are on the last stage of clean-up from spills that happened a long time ago.

The Marina will be small and interactive with the sidewalk. There will be a limited number of non-covered slips. Some will be sold and some rented. These details have not been finalized. He does not foresee them selling gas since there are enough places on the river selling gas.

Stroud Watson spoke about how excited they were to be involved with the Southside development and totally engaged with the community. Their goal is to connect the past with the present by including some of the flavor of the neighborhood. We have bungalow fronts with larger porches, hidden parking and lot of green space. The only parking in the front will be for visitors.

Christian Rushing spoke about this residential development will be built on a pedestrian design that responds to people not cars. Everything is pedestrian friendly. The units on the edges will have similar architectural aspects to blend with the existing styles in the neighborhood. The back part of the property will be more brownstone type units. The main units take their design accents from the homes on the boulevard. The development references the existing community in many ways. The railroad tracks will be left accessible in case a light rail commuter line becomes a reality at some time in the future.

Mr. Gumpert hopes this development is an amenity to the Island Home Community and our community an addition to his development.

Answers to questions:

  • Yes, we own the property on both sides of the tracks.
  • Yes, we will have an entrance from Hillwood.
  • Houses will face Hillwood, but those plans will change if the realignment of Hillwood happens sooner than later.
  • Yes, shops are permitted. This is a Form Based code not a Use Based code. Mr. Gumpert wants some commercial development; however, it might not stay in the design.
  • No Gas station at the marina. The boat slips will be for private and rental use. The demand for the slips will probably be from outside the development. Some slips may even go to Island Home residents.
  • We are planning for 180 as the total number of units.
  • How do we get to James White Parkway with 180 more cars? Mr. Gumpert does not foresee a big traffic difference but he thinks it will help force the city to decide about the realignment of Hillwood.
  • Stroud mentioned that they want to change Hillwood and Island Home Avenue from roads to streets. We will do everything we can to slow down traffic which includes parallel parking on Island Home Avenue.
  • Mr. Gumpert hopes the 1st phase will begin mid to late summer. The first phase will be on a small scale on Island Home Avenue with the bungalows. Mr. Gumpert has to work with the environmental group as to what properties he can develop first and on some areas he has to wait until he receives the environmental approvals.
  • Yes, along the river we will have sidewalks on both sides. We feel we have plenty of space for it.
  • Dave Hill commented that the city has already studied to be sure the roads will handle all the traffic. He agreed that having on street parking will slow down traffic. There is currently enough capacity to handle the additional volume of cars.
  • A traffic circle has been considered for the smooth transition of the realigned Island Home Avenue into the Island Home area.
  • Mr. Gumpert said they have not decided which roads are private/public. The entire development is meant to be permeable to pedestrian traffic.
  • Gated communities are not allowed in the codes for the South Knoxville Riverfront development.
  • The River walk will be developed and become part of the Greenway system. We are studying how the river walk will affect the property.
  • No, the shops will not block the view of the river to walkers. We will have parking along Island Home Avenue and some open/green space. Along the river is the river walk which will be approximately 10 to 15 feet walk for walking, biking etc.
  • Mr. Gumpert feels the pedestrian walk and marina will be the recreation area for the development and in the future the city has a plan for a park farther west.
  • Mr. Gumpert does not feel Island Home Avenue will ever be closed during the construction/realignment. It is major work, but Mr. Gumpert feels the improvement of Island Home Avenue really makes the development.
  • Have you talked about river traffic? There are severe limitations on where boats can be. There are only 3 spots in this area for marinas. The one in front of the development will be parallel slips because there is very limited space. We're trying to get away from the slips looking like the marina across the river. Mr. Gumpert said that marinas can bring activity.
  • Yes, Island Home Park can be prepared to handle the influx of 180 families, but I doubt all 180 would go at the same time. I don't think you will really notice the difference.
  • What will be the policing of the units? We will have an association which will be responsible for controlling things.
  • Yes, we are planning to use bricks and sandstones. There will be a nice quality of detail and my partners will build a great product.
  • Often the contractors are through Mr. Gumpert's company, but may be awarded locally. Mr. Gumpert is building City View himself. He noted that on the Tank Farm property they started with a land planning firm and then with the architect so they can design to the land.
  • No, we do not have the price plan yet. The market will control the prices. Karen Williamson said that $250/$300 per square foot would be nice.
  • The beauty of this project is that we don't have to build all the units at the same time. We can build 6 and then 6 more. The 180 units will happen over a period of time. It will not all happen at the same time. This will be built in phases.
  • What will be the security of the marina? I don't know yet.
  • In the count of 180, the density of the last building is what bulks up the number. The Bungalows are lower density. The large building has parking underneath. The Town House parking will be in garages. There will not be large parking lots.
  • Will you have a pool for community use? We may have a pool designed for the high density phase but not for the homes/town homes. We are not trying to draw the community to this development as a destination. This is not a large community and we want green space and sidewalks.
  • Do you have enough space for the relocation of Island Home Avenue south? When we leave our neighborhood, there doesn't seem to be enough room to move the road. We are looking at less than 100 feet. We are studying that and plan to make it a smooth transition into the neighborhood.
  • Mr. Gumpert is trying to blend into the community not change it.
  • Mr. Gumpert already has financial backers and will probably presell some of the units like we did at city view. At City View, we presold 60/122 before the bank allowed us to go forward. The bank will decide when we go forward. Phase 1 will be somewhere around 20 units. I think it will be a mix of bungalows and condos. It will not be the large building. I am limited by some environmental issues.
  • How can we interact in further public meetings? Mr. Gumpert said he is a big fan of letting people see what he is doing. We will be happy to show you progress designs as we have them. We will meet often and we want everyone's support. We want to be an amenity to Island Home and vise versa. The quality of the Island Home community is what makes John's development better.
  • What's the name? It has not been named yet.
  • Are you concerned about the new road connecting Hillwood to Island Home Avenue bringing non-residents into the development? No, I haven't thought about it.
  • The River walk is about 1200 feet and will eventually connect to the end of Scottish Pike.

Doug Allen thanked all three men for volunteering to talk with us, cooperating with city council and working to build a nice development.

Mr. Gumpert replied that he loves this type of work and likes working in Knoxville. He appreciated being here. IHPNA is a great neighborhood in a great town. We hope to add to your neighborhood with a positive initiative. We try to work carefully with the city and neighborhoods. We will be anxious for feedback in the future.

Dave Hill had information about the schedule for codes approval for the South Knoxville Waterfront Development. MPC and the City Council will make take formal actions regarding the code. This development is a great example of the South Knoxville Riverfront development process. This is exactly as we envisioned things coming out of the plan. As we sat down and talked with Mr. Gumpert, it helped to have the proposed code.

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